Renewables aren’t base load supply

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  1. Chris Morris's avatar chrism56
    Jan 31, 2019 @ 18:27:26

    It is actually worse than that. Look how much their output goes up and down each day.
    https://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/013008wind.jpg The grid cannot rely on them.

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  2. nottrampis's avatar nottrampis
    Jan 31, 2019 @ 18:29:19

    coal power certainly is not , 3 units broke down!!

    you thoughtfully avoid the point they were only were suppose to supply 20% of capacity. But still denialists will always deny

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  3. Chris Morris's avatar chrism56
    Jan 31, 2019 @ 19:31:39

    notramis
    You don’t understand power stations at all, do you. There are two reasons why those units failed (and they came back quickly which is more than you can say for wind) They are old units designed as baseload. They have been forced to load follow (flexible is the euphemism) because renewables get priority. Ramping units up and down makes them break more often.
    The maintenance on the power stations has been cut back because the government wants them closed. A full unit overhaul on one of those big units costs maybe $50M. How will that money be recouped.

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  4. Chris Morris's avatar chrism56
    Jan 31, 2019 @ 19:42:47

    This explains the Vic SA problem very well.
    http://www.wattclarity.com.au/articles/2019/01/my-first-look-at-the-highs-and-lows-in-victoria-and-south-australia-on-thursday-24th-january-2019/
    Note the lines “As a result, VIC+SA (and a bit of Tassie exports) was all on its own –> hence talk about an outage at Liddell seems a bit of a red herring on this occasion.” And note the great Musk battery failed its first real test. Running out long before the outage did.

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  5. Chris Morris's avatar chrism56
    Jan 31, 2019 @ 19:47:04

    And here is the fossil fuel generation on the 24th.
    https://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/012402fossilcoal.jpg Tell us where the units tripped out.

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