Maggie Thatcher on the Greek crisis

How to argue for inequality and neoliberalism when arguing dead set against it

On 12 August last, Closer Together New Zealand posted a chart showing average hourly wages had been stagnant for 20 years and then started growing again in 1993. Closer Together New Zealand then rounded up the usual suspects of the Left over Left.

Later that month in a comment on that post, a chart was posted showing that inequality had been increasing quite rapidly in the late 1980s and early 1990s in New Zealand. There were a range of economic reforms Closer Together New Zealand didn’t like in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

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Closer Together New Zealand did not notice their second chart showed there had been a large increase in inequality, and their first chart showed that this was followed by the return of regular average hourly wages after 20 years of stagnation.

I am not so vulgar as to suggest correlation is causation, but it is amusing to watch that one day a chart is posted showing a resumption of wages growth after 20 years of wage stagnation and the next day a chart is posted showing that the major economic developments in the preceding years were a large increase in inequality and substantial economic liberalisation.

To add to my amusement, a companion site Inequality A New Zealand Conversation posted a chart showing the top 1% had not had much at all in income growth for the last 20 years while most everyone else had. This spike in the incomes of the top 1% prior to about 1994 was followed by the resumption in average wages growth after 1994.

What group has by far the lowest jobless rate?

If government “programmes have been doing very little to help children out of poverty”, what halved child poverty in the last 20 years? Economic growth?

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Figure 1: child poverty (%) in New Zealand (before and after housing costs), 1982 – 2013

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Source: Bryan Perry, Household incomes in New Zealand: Trends in indicators of inequality and hardship 1982 to 2013. Ministry of Social Development (July 2014), Tables F.6 and F.7.

Unemployment rates of immigrants and natives in OECD member countries

Greece’s far left government must out-do Maggie Thatcher and Roger Douglas all by Wednesday to qualify for their bailout!

John Cochrane on a big hole in the Greek bailout (and media analysis of the bailout)

via The Grumpy Economist: Greece again.

There were large cross-country differences in long-term unemployment duration both before and after the GFC

Unemployment rates across OECD member countries

Was the Chinese share market crash rational asset-price movements without news?

Large share market crashes  such as over the recent months in China and the 1987 Wall Street crash do not necessarily imply an economic slowdown.

The majority of major share market movements occur without any particular news hitting the market. Studies of the 50 largest share market movements in the US stock market between 1946 and 1987 found that the majority of them could not be explained by news. That includes the 1987 share market crash. In October 1987, shares fell by 20% in one day for no obvious reason.

David Romer explained these booms and busts, including the 1987 share market crash in two ways: investor uncertainty about the quality of other investors’ information; and dispersion of information and small costs to trading:

Asset prices can change because initially the market does an imperfect job of revealing the relevant information possessed by different investors and because developments within the market can then somehow cause more of that information to be revealed…

The possibility of imperfect aggregation implies an alternative to external news and irrationality as a potential source of asset-price movements: some price changes may be caused by “internal” news.

That is, asset prices can change because initially the market does an imperfect job of revealing the relevant information possessed by different investors and because developments within the market can then somehow cause more of that information to be revealed.

Either of these models are perfectly plausible. Investors learn from each other through trading and improve their estimations of the value of various shares.

As such, through internal learning and discovery within the share market there can be booms and crashes despite no new information, no communication, and no coordination among the participants in trading. Underneath the surface, there is a gradual updating of information by the participants and at a certain point in time, this causes a sudden change of behaviour.

Dow and Gorton made similar points to David Romer about how share market learning is a process of learning, judgement and error correction rather than an instant adjustment:

Strategic interaction and the complexity of the information result in a protracted price response.

Indeed, equilibrium price paths of the model may display reversals in which the two traders rationally revise their beliefs, first in one direction, and then in the opposite direction, even though no new information has entered the system.

A piece of information which is initially thought to be bad news may be revealed, through trading, to be good news.

Bubbles and crashes are consistent with private information held by a few slowly dispersing among market participants until this knowledge was reflected in stock prices as in Hayek’s (1945) analysis of the price mechanism as a means of communicating information.

HT: The one thing you should remember about the stock market crash of 1987 | Business Insider.

Greek and US great depressions compared

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/620570062538309632/photo/1

Greece’s possible currency outcomes, from today’s euro to the drachma

The Marshall plan and the Greek bailout compared

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Major sovereign bond defaults in recent history

via Defaulting Debtors.

Financial crises surprisingly common, but few countries close their banks

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